I'll take a look for them around here Sharon. I've never seen them but then I never when looking either. I found I was trying to make too big a pouch for some of the plants. It really doesn't take much for the weight needing to anchor these and I needed to make them a little looser so they'll flatten out under the rocks a bit more rather than little full santa sacks! The draw string sure sounds a whole lot easier to deal with too! Even if I made some myself they'd be better than just cutting a chunk of cloth of some sort.

todley