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        <![CDATA[ I currently have 4 tanks. Three 5 gallons, and one 10 gallon.  They were all cycled a week ago, I swear. pH was 7.0, ammonia was 0ppm, nitrites were 0ppm, and
nitrates were 10ppm. I noticed one platy in the 10 with her mouth at the surface of the water, so I tested it. pH lighter than 6.0 (?!), ammonia 0.5ppm (?!),
nitrites 0ppm, nitrates 10ppm. 


Now, I use Amquel + and NovAqua + in all 4 tanks. All 4 tanks read the same. I called a pet store up here to ask the pH of their tanks because my... ]]>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Hey K, how are things going now?  Test readings okay?
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			<description><![CDATA[ I do use Prime ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Great advice from Dr. B. <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif">
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I remember those pictures.  You did a great job. <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif">  Don&#39;t worry, you will get back in the swing of it. <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif">
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			<description><![CDATA[ Ammonia levels should always be zero, so a 0.5 is not good.  Use Prime to detoxify that ammonia.
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Nitrates should ideally be kept at 10 ppm or less by water changes though up to 20 ppm might be ok. I wouldn&#39;t go over 20 and would shoot for less than 10.
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Barb ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ nitrItes stay at zero and nitrAtes hover around 10 or 20... when do those get bad? 40? ammonia is NEVER higher than .5 but with prime (yeah, i ran out of the
other when my furniture came back, along with a HUGE bottle I had of prime) is that bad?
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and in case anyone is wondering, i did get as much of the water out of the tanks (when i used amquel/novaqua) before adding prime. not real sure how big of an
issue that may have caused.... but why chance it.
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i felt dumb when i... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Keep an eye on the ammonia and nitrites for a while, okay?  Just to be safe.
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			<description><![CDATA[ i did water changes today and didn&#39;t check *bad me*
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I think I figured it out tho.... remember the issue I had a while back with the 75 gallon... OTS is what I think it was... weeellllll I think I unknowingly
somehow created that by mistake. Not by ignoring them or anything, but just by using the old biowheel or the carbon filter after it had been out of the water a
week. I am keeping on top of water changes... I&#39;m not terribly worried. I didn&#39;t know the Amquel would... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif">  Yes, that is why if people seem to have pH that moves around I usually get them to let the tapwater sit out for 48 hours and see what it is.  Sometimes
it goes up, sometimes it goes down.  <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif">
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			<description><![CDATA[ hi tetralina,
<br>
as the KH will stay more or less the same ...Ph can be 8.0 but also 6.5 after a week depending on how fresh the water is how old the tank and decoration...so i
go the sure way measuring my KH <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif"> .
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easy to test is fresh tap water in a glass as the CO2 saturation will be higher (in europe it is ) kh might by anywhere ...soon as you blow bubbles the Co2
disolves and the Ph is changing !
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twinkering... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif">
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That is a good idea about the plants in a new tank for another reason too . . . often if they have roots and such they bring in some good bacteria to start the
fishless cycle . . . so they can be a benefit that way.
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Yes, if a person is careful with monitoring kH they can use that as a baseline since pH is related to kH.  Most people use pH because the testers are easy to
read with lots of small gradients to see.... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ hi there,
<br>
all i can say about new tanks is...if there is no chance to get any bacterias of another well run filter (from a friend or even a good shop!) i would not put
any fish in for at least 4 weeks. what is important (from my view) is to put enough plants. as a new plant uses at least 3 weeks before they start to grow in a
newly installed tank, meeting new parameters etc...they will be ready when you put the first fish to control the nitrate (NO2)...no fertilizer is nessecary
during... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The dropping pH is likely due to the use of AmQuel.  Plus, ammonia tends to use up some of the mineral buffers which keep the pH stable.  Could you check the
usual parameters (pH, ammonia, nitrites, nitrates) for us to see what they are now?  Just because I worry something might have happened to the bacteria since
the cycle is so new.
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			<description><![CDATA[ Michele, I have no idea what the kH and gH are. The tanks were cycled about a month before this happened, but it seems to be very similar to &quot;old tank
syndrome&quot; which may make perfect sense as the bio wheels aren&#39;t new =) which would be a total &quot;my bad&quot; issue... haven&#39;t checked the
parameters lately as we have been moving all my furniture. I may buy new biowheels for the 5 gallons, but that has yet to explain the issue with the 10 gallon. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hey farid, I just wanted to suggest that maybe for most beginning/intermediate fishkeepers (not the very advanced ones like you definitely are) we like to
avoid them using the principle of letting water drop due to plants and other things. 
<br>
<br>
Why?  If water drops in pH over a period of time due to biological action, it can be very dangerous if they do a waterchange with higher pH water and don&#39;t
realized what happens.  So, the Old Tank Syndrome makes the new, suddenly higher pH... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ hi there,
<br>
you have to know that tapwater has always the higher pH when it is &quot;new&quot;...make a test...measure it when coming out and let a bucket stay for 24h and
measure then. it could be lower already as the Co2 in the tapwater has desolved. (why ever) <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif">
<br>
when in the tank...bakterias of the filter plants wood and so on can help you lower the pH after a while. so the ph it for sure no the most important paramerer
to... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Just to clarify... were your tanks stable for some time, or did you just cycle them?  I read it as your tanks were &quot;stable&quot; a week ago... or maybe
I&#39;m wrong... that you just started cycling them?  Did all the tanks have an ammonia reading or just one?  Which one?  Can you give us some info on
what&#39;s in the tank, how many, how often you do your waterchanges?
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Kairi, what is your gH/kH of your tap water?  Shelly/T... haven&#39;t we found that pH crashes when using A/N... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ tap water last I checked it was 8, the gravel is not brand new, but it was in November. I haven&#39;t added anything, and the tanks have been cycled for a
month or so. I will check when I get home- I am currently about 1000 miles away from the tanks =) ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Good input from everyone.  I know I asked this in your cichlid thread, but what is your tapwater pH right now?  (Sometimes tapwater pH drops depending on how
the water department is buffering it.)
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t ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ There are several things that can drop the pH.  Driftwood, live or decomposing plants, a low kH, infrequent water changes.  I believe that AQ+ and NA+ are not
suppose to affect the pH in tanks.  How where the tanks cycled?  A tank being cycled a week ago is still really early on in the cycling process so little
blimps in the process aren&#39;t overly surprising. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Im not sure about ammonia (unless its from overfeeding) but ph dropped in my tank cause the gravel was too old and stopped buffering.
<br>
Have you added anything to the tank in the last week? (peat and driftwoods would lower the ph).
<br>
Since im from NZ and we don&#39;t have those products im not sure if any of them lower ph. (have you checked the expiry date on the products? )
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Also if your tap water is 8 now, i am assuming it was 7 a week ago? Maybe it dropped in the meantime... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I currently have 4 tanks. Three 5 gallons, and one 10 gallon.  They were all cycled a week ago, I swear. pH was 7.0, ammonia was 0ppm, nitrites were 0ppm, and
nitrates were 10ppm. I noticed one platy in the 10 with her mouth at the surface of the water, so I tested it. pH lighter than 6.0 (?!), ammonia 0.5ppm (?!),
nitrites 0ppm, nitrates 10ppm. 
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Now, I use Amquel + and NovAqua + in all 4 tanks. All 4 tanks read the same. I called a pet store up here to ask the pH of their tanks... ]]></description>

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